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It’s hard to mature and mellow out about nitpicky geek stuff (like who’s playing “Who”), and just let events unfold naturally when you’ve publicly voiced so many INCREDIBLY SPECIFIC AND EXTREMELY IMPORTANT OPINIONS about such things in the past. Oh well. I guess I’m the boy who cried LOUD TV OPINIONS.
This starts our latest mini storyline where Joel explores whether you can just be a fan and trust geek creators to do their jobs, or if geekdom requires fan intervention to function.
COMMENTERS: We’ll be dancing around this idea over the next 3 or 4 strips, but I’ll go ahead pose the question: Do you feel like you need to be an active participant in your geekeries of choice, or are you happy being a passive observer?
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You know when I first saw an interview with Matt Smith, I thought, “he’s too young and he cuts his hair like like he’s fronting a “Flock of Seagulls” tribute band. He’s going to be awful.”
As history proved, I was wrong.
I’m willing to cut the Moff some slack and let him do his voodoo.I disagree. I think Matt Stone sucked. Worse Doctor since that blond guy who took over after Mark Baker.
Peter Capaldi will be an improvement. Unlike Stone, he can act. Still, he’s no Chiwetel Ejiofor or Idris Elba.
I want to see a real shake up. It’s time for the Doctor to experience a gender change.
90percentgeek · 96 weeks agoI can’t figure out if you’re trolling or just ignorant. Do you mean Peter Davison who took over from TOM Baker? Peter Davison – that blonde guy as you put it – was one of the more revolutionary Whos, and the original “Oh he’s too young to be the Doctor” actor. He’s also David Tennant’s father in law and the inspiration for a lot of the 10th Doctor’s quirks.
As for Matt Stone – do you mean Matt Smith? The person referred to in the comment you’re replying to? Matt Smith has been a brilliant Doctor and to suggest he can’t act suggests you don’t know what acting is. I suggest you look it up. And maybe look up Doctor Who while you’re about it as you don’t seem to have a clear idea of what you’re talking about.Not trolling, child, just made the mistake of trying to write under the influence of pain medication. Yes, Davison, Tom Baker, Matt Smith (Matt Stone is the South Park guy–I know that–sorry). Look, it’s a simple matter of taste. De gustibus, you know? I found Davison intolerably bland, and I wasn’t alone in that. The audience under Davison and Colin Baker plummeted. If Tennant based his idiosyncrasies on Davison’s, he managed them one hell of a lot better than dear old Dad-in-law, IMHO. As for Matt Smith, I thought he was a snore in the beginning, but I tried to give him a chance. He got some really stellar scripts, but I think they would have been ten times better with Tennant still driving the sonic screwdriver–so to speak. As for your opinion of Smith’s acting, it’s just that: your opinion. I find him bland and uninspiring. As I said: de gustibus. Look it up. I’m glad Smith’s out. I just hope Capaldi does a better job.Not to be reflexive, but I enjoy consuming the media that I enjoy consuming. I don’t write the media I consume; I write, but not for my own consumption. The handful of things about which I am specifically a huge fan I am mainly a fan of BECAUSE I feel like I can just sit back and enjoy them. Maybe there are things I’d do differently, but that’s just the point: I’m enjoying what someone else is making for me. Really, as a maker myself, I have to admit: I make things for me and hope other people like them. I assume the people who make the things I love are in the same boat: they make things they love, and hope other people will, too. I dig that. I enjoy what other people make without wanting to edit their vision; I don’t want them to edit mine.
I do get nervous around big changes: a new Doctor, Dan Harmon getting the boot on Community, Futurama coming back after an extended absence, the redevelopment of Star Trek, any form of X-Men anything, the secret sneaking fear that somewhere someone in Hollywood is trying to think of a way to profit off of Calvin & Hobbes… I mean, it’s human nature to worry about the things we’re emotionally invested in. But we shouldn’t take it too far, and, as fans, I think we often do.
When there’s a change I really DON’T like (I admit it, I didn’t like The Wrath of Khan II and don’t like the tenor of the new movies much) I just go back and enjoy the things I always enjoyed before. Still great episodes of a tv series to watch, books to read, movies to enjoy…everything new doesn’t have to be as perfect as what came before, but if I trust the people in charge then mostly I figure it will work out. So instead of thinking, “Oh Buddha this is going to be awful I hate this,” I think, “I hope this is good but I trust they’ll figure it out because they’ve done right before.” Sometimes (Dan Harmon getting booted from Community) they don’t. Oftentimes they do, at least partially. But it’s long been true that even a cack-handed “re-imagining” of something isn’t going to wreck the good stuff that came before it. ST:TOS is still awesome even if I’m not a fan of the current movies.
We’ll get a new Doctor. Capaldi certainly wasn’t on my radar as a potential selection, but have they ever steered this ship so badly wrong that the series was forced to shut down production forever and all existing copies of the previous episodes were burned? Unless I’m way behind on the news this morning, I’m pretty sure the answer’s no.
To me, being a fan (in non-sports contexts) is something that brings me joy and pleasure. If it brings me worry and heartache, I think I’m doing it wrong.
Aetheling · 97 weeks agoI saw the Doctor Who announcement live in London. Just throwing that out there. I also think Capaldi will be a great Doctor, even if he is another Scot. It’ll be nice to have an older grump back instead of the furious, slightly hyperactive cheeriness of Tennant and Smith. He’s great in The Thick Of It and In The Loop.
Adam · 97 weeks agoYes, I do believe that Joel has a moral obligation to watch “In The Loop” now. Right. Now.
Joel, let me help you understand: you know how game of thrones is with blood? Okay, that’s how “In The Loop” is with foul language. The most floridly foul language you’ve ever imagined. It will change the way you think of the English language forever. GO. NOW. Yes, it is on Netflix.
Ali · 97 weeks agoFor a couple days I was upset that Capaldi is another middle-aged white guy when they could have cast a woman and/or a person of color…but I’ve mellowed out like Joel. I’m probably going to be more upset by Moffat than anything Capaldi does as an actor.I’m actually pretty sure Capaldi will do an excellent job. And like you, I expect to be more upset by Moffat’s work than Capaldi’s.
But I’m _still_ mildly angry that they cast another white guy.
Bemmie · 96 weeks agoHere i’m just hoping they cast the best person for the role, if that person happens to be a purple polka dotted leprechaun, fantastic, I’m keen to see what this Doctor can do, and for him to show us why he was the best.
Hotsauce · 96 weeks agoThe thing is, there are a lot of really good actors. There is no one “best person” for any role. There are a lot of people who would do different, interesting, enjoyable things with The Doctor, or any other role. So “I don’t care what color they are, as long as it’s the best person for the role” is a little facile, as it ignores the fact that there are a LOT of people who, on some level, don’t care whether it’s the best person for the role as long they’re the right color. It also ignores that there are a lot of people out there who very rarely see someone who looks like them given interesting, popular roles, and that maybe that’s not okay.I’m an columnist for an entertainment news portal site that focuses a fair amount of attention on geek culture, so I would say that I kind of have to be active for the sake of my writing career. Even if I wasn’t though I would be active in other ways.
What I’ve found is that you have to pick and choose which geektivities you are going to be active in and let some go. If I was an active participant in discussions around all my fandoms, I would pretty much never do anything else. And then die from lack of food and eating. So some I am active about (Doctor Who, TT roleplaying, comics, film, music) and some I just enjoy on my own.I would’ve been thrilled for a bit of a shake-up with a PoC or woman, but Capaldi is a fantastic actor & I can’t wait to see his take. I actually think the choice was incredibly brave, considering the number of fans who seem to be around for the young geeky sex-symbol.Now that Capaldi is the Doctor, I find myself wishing they’d change the showrunner too, to Armando Iannucci. More bollocking, less mystery girls wrapped in sexism, please.
But yeah, opinions. I’ve never been that active about my fandomy thoughts online, save occasional commenting here and some ancient LJ ranting. These days I’m content with expressing my views (or god forbid, “feels”) on tumblr by reblogging something about something and tag-bombing the shit out of it. Pretty much anything I have got to say has been said already, so I’ll just find the post most fitting my take on things.I honestly try to stay more passive these days because man, fandoms can be dangerous places. Even loving a thing isn’t enough to get you a pass if you don’t love it THE EXACT SAME WAY. For example, I LOVE Doctor Who. But I have a lot of online acquaintances that HATE Moffat. So we even though we all love the Who-verse, it derails quickly into arguments I’d just rather not have. I understand minutiae gripes, but man. Sometimes a girl just wants to consume a thing and not think about it too deeply, you know? Which probably makes me a bad nerd, I know.In reguards to other fandom, I think I’ve always been a more laid-back person. There are the occational things I just get unreasonably angry about but when they make movies or TV shows of geek things I love, I go into it with the attitude of “well, let’s see what their take is on it.” I just don’t see the point of getting all righteous and furious over things these days.
Orion M · 97 weeks agoI am sad it is not Tilda Swinton.
…with that said, I have no issue with Capaldi, really. Other than that he’s not Matt Smith and not Tilda Swinton. I hope Moffat has a good plan. These last three seasons were sometimes uneven, but the payoff’s been pretty epic so far.
(I would be very unhappy with a return to the Davies days. I actually find most of those episodes borderline unwatchable at this point. And I won’t even get started on how disappointing I found Torchwood.)
(…this is all, of course, just my opinion. But it is there!)
Ceri · 97 weeks agoThat’s a very important point you’ve made there, and one that’s been grinding my gears for a while now – what’s with the sudden Moffat-bashing? He used to be The Saviour a few seasons ago, and now suddenly people say his writing sucks. Compare any RTD-written episode to any Moffat ep, and I’ll guarantee Moffat comes out on top. I’m not saying I’ve loved every episode or storyarc he’s ever written, but at least he’s not turning The Doctor into Jesus every season finale.
I have a theory: Moffat writes great episodes, but not season arcs; Davies was the other way around.Dude’s fairly misogynistic, as it turns out. You don’t have to google far to see the accusations against him, and the connected essays on how it negatively impacts his writing.
There may be other charges levied against him too, I’m not sure. This is just the chatter I’ve picked up on.I’m almost never a totally passive consumer of my favorite media, but sometimes I feel more motivated to share my reactions with the world at large and/or create fanworks of some kind, and other times I’m content to only talk about it when the subject comes up.
zathael · 96 weeks agoIts hard. I don’t have anything against this Peter Capaldi fellow. But I wish they’d gone for someone other than a white male. I wish they’d done a woman or a person of color. Or both. But I get the feeling that Moffat, for all his talent, is a bit of a misogynist. He wrote a for radio “what if the Doctor were a woman” where she spent the entire episode flirting and mussing with her hair. So I had little hope he’d go for a woman.
Wesley · 96 weeks agoI sit back and relax. I tend to judge, yeah, but mostly only after I’ve actually seen something.
This is mainly for my own health.. when I’m not actually involved in creating something, spending energy on thinking how it could have been better is just energy wasted and the Nerd rage that will eventually come from it when they choose to do something that isn’t my idea (not that they could have known) just isn’t worth it. Stress is bad, mmkay?You can be shocked, you can be overjoyed, but you can’t freak out and take to the internet and vent because it is pointless.
Why freak out at something you can’t control, have no real say in since it’s created in and for another country’s viewers, and was bound to happen no matter what since all but two had just three seasons in the role…
And if he is craving Thin Mints enough, Nestle is making Nestle Crunch candy bar versions of the cookies!!!I’m inconsistant…one day I’m perfectly fine with something, the next, I’ll rage over the stupidest of thing depending how the day went. Normally I don’t care just as long as my geek river keeps flowing. It thins to a trickle, then I Nerd Rage and bring my Wrath upon the Internet….sadly to say my opinion counts for nothing on several levels so I just shrug my shoulders and look for something else I enjoy.Apart from the off hand wish that they find some way to include Craig Ferguson on the show with Capaldi – nah. If I wanted a say I should have grown up to be a writer.
Chibiyagi · 96 weeks agoHas Josh been playing The Last of Us?
Also, my only thing with Peter Capaldi as 12 is that it’s the whole BBC incestuous casting all over again. Other than that, I think he’ll be fantastic. Any number of people could play the Doctor and they can all be amazing for different reasons, no reason to get all butt-hurt and start fighting.To the point: I am more than happy being a passive observer in all my geekeries, kind of a jack of all trades, master of none. I was just recently turned onto to the Doctor Who reboot this year, and have rather enjoyed Matt Smith. Equally as well I look forward to the new Doctor.I am however even more amazed at the size of Joel’s stick judging from the heated debate that has ensued from a simple strip. Well done sir, well done.
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