I know this is and ancient post, but I'm going through the archive and wanted to make this exact comment!
And Villa Gesell has more drunken teenagers (at least during summer) than nazi refugees. Also the bartender sounded more mexican than argentinian.
You, sir or madam, are incorrect. This was the best of the five X-Men movies.
However, the continuity with the other movies was pretty rough. Like, in X1-3, wouldn't Charles constantly be paranoid about a shapeshifter hanging about? And wouldn't he, like, always know where Mystique was, since they grew up together? How is she introduced as a new and surprising villain in X1?
Where was a young Juggernaut in Charles' youth, instead of Mystique?
They didn't just take some liberties with the comics, they took them with their own movie timeline.
Still the best.
Or facial hair, even.
]]>Also acceptable: the Russkies, the Reds.
]]>That bothered me, too! And the actors called them "Russians." I think the only person who said "Soviets" was JFK!
]]>In the Ultimate Marvel series they changed Alex to be Scott's older brother. So Alex being the older of the two is not that out of place.
I agree that making Banshee and Moira McTaggart American was kind of annoying, not to mention they made her a CIA agent when she was a geneticist and mutant specialist in the comics and the horrible X-Men: The Last Stand.
]]>Now that you mention it, I do remember him (and I finally decided to look).
According to IMDB, X2 is the only X-men movie he's not in, while the first one, as the fellow by the hotdog stand, was his first cameo. ((Granted they don't have they don't have a cameo listed for this movie or Wolverine, either))
]]>Many of the creators (including Stan the Man himself) will tell you that X-Men was created (or at least used as a vehicle) to discuss race. It's kind of the obvious point of it all. ((In fact, I apologize ahead of time for being Captain Obvious))
]]>Sorry, but that movie is going to be seen as a Netflix for me. The character lineup gives me a chronos headache.
]]>Not just cheap, poorly designed! It's something Michael Bay did in the first transformers movie! What really annoyed me is that they could have done so much more with his death, but everyone just forgot about him like he didn't exist. It wasn't even that much of a tragedy, everyone was more worried about the white guy getting crippled. Not to mention other than Shaw, he was the only mutant who was killed. Really weird.
]]>So, she's like Madonna with superpowers that don't include dancing for the gays?
]]>Farscape (Everyone except John and his dad!).
]]>Also, just remembered: Better Off Ted and Arrested Development (Portia DeRossi).
]]>WORKS considering the ERA?
We had liaisons in NASA back then for a start to sync Parkes for the 1969 landing telecast!
(US satellites didn't always see the transmissions.)
Even back then, hell, in the 1800s you had the odd traveler who was bored of their own country and traveled/settled! If not, how would Chinatown, Little Italy e.t.c and illegal labour get started? 😛 🙂
]]>While I got that bit, as I mentioned to my husband (not Demiakumu but there were parallels with the convo I had with my husband) he was the only black guy in a movie set in the midst of civil unrest. And they use the slavery dig, really? Come on. It was cheap. Great movie besides that gripe and other small ones. But cheap.
]]>Damon Lindelof: ‘January Jones Can’t Act’ http://www.thesuperficial.com/january-jones-damon…
]]>Also: Yvonne Strzechowski (Chuck), Anna Torv and John Nobel (Fringe)
But yeah, they took a lot of very strongly ethnic muteys here and Americanized the shit out of them. Which works storywise, considering the era it's set it, but really sucks as far as characterization goes.
]]>Well the irony is that the actual first class was a bunch of white guys (and gal). The X-Men didn't become all diversified until the first reboot. So that's I guess the one real victory for the movie staying true to the source. 😛
]]>Yeah, she's not British. But she's totally the kind of pretentious bitch would adopt a British accent as an affectation. In fact, I've always heard her doing so in my head while reading.
]]>When they obviously held the shot on Darwin's face for the word "enslaved" I saw it as another device to put it firmly within the 60s, much like a rococo designed submarine bridge.
Have we forgot the Civil Rights Riots already?
]]>You do realize that out of your four examples only one of em is not canceled?
Not saying much for "Aussie love" over here.
]]>Like most of the other posters, I did like the way the movie portrays Xavier and Magneto, and I generally enjoyed the way their relationship was handled. It was easy for me to empathize with both characters, and I thought their faults were both interesting and appropriate. Luckily, this makes up a significant part of the movie. I actually prefer the interactions between Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan in some of the earlier films, but I think those two are among the best living actors, so it's hard to top what they can bring to a performance.
Everything else about the movie was not for me. I didn't get much out of the plot, and I didn't think that any of the characters aside from Magneto and Xavier were really developed in an interesting way. Most of the action scenes were not very good, and the way they handled Xavier's paralysis was so hammy that it almost caused me physical pain. I think the film missed some excellent opportunities to anchor the series going forward on this timeline, but on the bright side, I am glad that many others seemed to enjoy it.
]]>Damnit, an accent. It's early here.
]]>We Aussies got this first. Pyro is AUSTRALIAN.
But come the movies? Hellooooooooooooo Yank Yankerson of Yanktown USA.
(What, you thought Hugh was the ONLY one in Hollywood? Need I remind you how many we have in that place? Sierra from Dollhouse, 2/3 of Without a Trace, Tara from United States of Tara, Blonde Doc from House – one of the only ones allowed to retain his accent – and more!)
Still liked X2, but man did that piss me off!
(The only other one we have is "Gateway" I think his codeword is? Shit, they USED him in the bloody console games!)
My favorite mutant in this film, in fact, was Banshee.
]]>Yes, Michael Fassbender as Magneto owned the movie. He was amazing and the character was consistent with who Mageneto would become in the first 3 X-movies. However, I laughed out loud in the theater when Xavier got shot because the situation and the timing we just so neatly absurd.
]]>See but "spear through the spine" isnt even the original way he was paralyzed. He was original hurt during a battle with the Shadow King. TOO MANY CONTINUITIES!!!
]]>Its really more of a preboot. Beast's continuity is all effed up too. He appears human on the news in X2, then he's blue in X3 (a few months later?), then he talks about being on the old X-team as if he was blue the whole time.
]]>He was that asian chick with the claws right?
]]>Havok is Scott's brother. There are 3 Summer's brothers. The ages are just off for this film. Azazel is also Nightcrawlers dad. Mystique is his mom. Hence, Nightcrawler looks like a blue Azazel.
]]>When the moved the satellite using the power of warm mommy love I was totally chanting "kiss kiss kiss.."
]]>I think that's because all of the other characters were explored fully in the previous films. This franchise doesnt have much more to say about Scott, Jean, Bobby or Warren.
]]>Now you've got me wondering if this was something set up by the racial climate of the 60's when these characters were actually created. I know the movie "bad guy" team isnt directly representative of the comics in any way, but was there a higher frequency of non-white baddies back in the day?
]]>Well I was gonna say that magneto still could have helped Xavier build the Cerebro under the mansion, but I just realized that would have had to have happened before the split. Still, at least they didn't try to work lillandra in there somewhere for the original's origin story. I don't think we really need any space travel in the movie continuity.
]]>I distinctly remember Stan Lee in 1 and 3. Hotdog cart man when mutant senator Kelly washes up on the beach, and random neighbor to Jean Grey watering his lawn in 3.
Anyone remember off hand if he was in 2 anywhere?
]]>Hahaha, I thought the exact same thing. The first time they showed Beast I was all "oh hey, thats a fantastic casting choice for Havok!" and then 5 seconds later, "whaaaaaa?"
]]>Same reaction here. Let's be clear: The dream team of "bad guys" at the end of the movie is a group of non-white people and a loose woman (Emma) led by a Jew. The movie had lots of great in it, but that part of it felt like Glen Beck had broken into the writers room and made some last minute script adjustments.
]]>However, there was really no reason for all the other mutants to be in the film. They didn't add anything other than being visual aids for themes. Other than a comic relief spot and a contrived "we need sonar" moment, what point did Banshee serve?
I think this movie could have been so much better if they hadn't tried to go all Avengers, Assemble on us and stuck to the heart of the story: Eric and Charles. When Magneto is holding Xavier at the end, I felt we didn't get enough build up to that emotional breakdown because of all the other characters eating up screen time.
Still, a good movie, just not as good as I'd hoped.
]]>Personally, I have no problem with pretending that X3 and X-Men Origins: Wolverine don't exist.
As for the minor continuity stuff in X-Men, it's a little annoying, but it's the kind of thing that happens with every franchise. (I mean, heck, how do you reconcile that there were 3 different actresses playing Kitty Pryde in the first trilogy, or the Sebastian Shaw and not-blue-and-furry-Hank McCoy cameos on the TV in X2?) Right now, I'm fine with thinking this is a prequel.
]]>Was Stan Lee in any of the other X-Movies? I can't remember him being in them, and apparently can't be bothered to google it, either…
Of course, currently working on the assumption that Lee wasn't in the films, I have a theory: There will have to be more X-Movies until they can put Lee into one of them.
]]>On the accent thing, I thought Banshee was irish, I thought that's where he took the name from (irish folklore).
On the good side: OH GOD Xavier and Magneto. SO GOOD.
Xavier was brilliant, but he was also kind of a dick. He was arrogant and in some ways naive. It was interesting to see that he picks up some of his humility from his injury.
Magneto was awesome as the tragic hero of the piece, a man who does heroic things for the wrong reasons. The only problem I have is that his injury of Xavier was accidental, rather than him THROWING A SPEAR THROUGH HIS SPINE because of their argument like in the comic.
I have no idea if this is a prequel or a reboot. Me iz confused.
Also, I would love to see an entire movie with Magneto tracking down Nazis, Inglorious Mutants-style.
]]>(The other major gripe I have it will Emma Frost. *is with?*)
]]>Yeah, that really bothered me too…. the one black dude, and his power is supposedly the ability to adapt to ANYTHING, and the one time he really needs it… DEAD.
I also cringed when Sebastian Shaw said "enslaved" and they immediately cut to a shot of Darwin's face.
]]>I mean, <spoilers> black dude gets killed of to show that the characters are in "dire peril".
Latina chick with wings goes evil. Blue chick goes evil.
Red dude is evil (and russian apparently), and the Hispanic dude was already evil too.
The only non-white on the team is beast, and he's as white as you can get on the inside.
Enjoyed the movie, sure, but some parts were cringe worthy.
]]>For anyone else confused by this I edited the dialog in the comic to reflect the fakeness of her British accent and provide this link for clarification: http://www.emmafrostfiles.com/misc/faq/does-emma-…
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