Comments on: It’s All In The Editing http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/ geek comic, geek webcomic, geek podcast, geek podcast, geek culture comic Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:10:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Not_Mandatory http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/#comment-4288 Not_Mandatory Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:36:11 +0000 http://hijinksensue.com/?p=647#comment-4288 DAMMIT! I guess I'd better start saving my pennies then. DAMMIT! I guess I'd better start saving my pennies then.

]]> By: hijinksensue http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/#comment-4277 hijinksensue Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:24:58 +0000 http://hijinksensue.com/?p=647#comment-4277 Excellent point! Macs are toys and cant do anything substantial (like make this comic, record our podcast, edit my videos, etc etc etc etc infinity). My mom uses a PC and let me tell you, SHE knows what she's doing. Excellent point! Macs are toys and cant do anything substantial (like make this comic, record our podcast, edit my videos, etc etc etc etc infinity). My mom uses a PC and let me tell you, SHE knows what she's doing.

]]> By: hijinksensue http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/#comment-4276 hijinksensue Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:22:39 +0000 http://hijinksensue.com/?p=647#comment-4276 They always used macs on Buffy and Angel. They always used macs on Buffy and Angel.

]]> By: hijinksensue http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/#comment-3902 hijinksensue Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:02:31 +0000 http://hijinksensue.com/?p=647#comment-3902 i ran windows xp for 7 years and never had any real problems with virus's or malware. I ran ADG free antivirus and spyware scanner and didnt open attachments in spam or run any exe's that I didnt recognize. thats really all you have to do. I agree with Orclev that I dont get Virus's on OSX because no one writes viruses for OSX. That will change as they gain market share, Im sure. The only virus that ever destoyed a windows machine for me came with a keygen that I was running to pirate some app. It was my fault entirely. i ran windows xp for 7 years and never had any real problems with virus's or malware. I ran ADG free antivirus and spyware scanner and didnt open attachments in spam or run any exe's that I didnt recognize. thats really all you have to do.

I agree with Orclev that I dont get Virus's on OSX because no one writes viruses for OSX. That will change as they gain market share, Im sure.

The only virus that ever destoyed a windows machine for me came with a keygen that I was running to pirate some app. It was my fault entirely.

]]> By: Orclev http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/#comment-3755 Orclev Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:28:12 +0000 http://hijinksensue.com/?p=647#comment-3755 Depends a lot on what you do with it to how much you notice the warts (and how long you've been using it, they've fixed a lot of them, and I do mean a lot). Vista has almost reached the point of being about as stable as pre-SP1 XP, which is still a lot better than ME ever managed, but less than most other OSes. The whole thing is mostly moot anyway, as Vista was just a stop gap for MS to get something to market till they could roll out Windows 7. I've said it in the past, and I'll say it again now, Vista is the new Windows ME. ME was created as a temporary patch in between 98 and XP that was put together by stapling pieces of XP on to a 98 core, and it showed quite often when pieces fell off. Vista is the same thing, it's pieces of Windows 7 stapled onto a XP core and it to shows its rickety providence. Is Vista the most terrible OS ever created? Hardly, but XP SP2 is still better, and that's not the way to roll out a new product. When your previous version performs better than your new version, you're doing it wrong. Depends a lot on what you do with it to how much you notice the warts (and how long you've been using it, they've fixed a lot of them, and I do mean a lot). Vista has almost reached the point of being about as stable as pre-SP1 XP, which is still a lot better than ME ever managed, but less than most other OSes.

The whole thing is mostly moot anyway, as Vista was just a stop gap for MS to get something to market till they could roll out Windows 7. I've said it in the past, and I'll say it again now, Vista is the new Windows ME. ME was created as a temporary patch in between 98 and XP that was put together by stapling pieces of XP on to a 98 core, and it showed quite often when pieces fell off. Vista is the same thing, it's pieces of Windows 7 stapled onto a XP core and it to shows its rickety providence. Is Vista the most terrible OS ever created? Hardly, but XP SP2 is still better, and that's not the way to roll out a new product. When your previous version performs better than your new version, you're doing it wrong.

]]> By: Orclev http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/#comment-3753 Orclev Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:45:56 +0000 http://hijinksensue.com/?p=647#comment-3753 Yes and no. Vista asks you to click ok anytime you do anything that might in any way potentially mess something up. It should be noted that there are a lot of things you do every single day that have the potential to possibly mess something up, as well as the fact that the popups don't actually ask you if you want to do whatever it was you just tried to do, at least not in a way your average user is able to understand. That was the biggest failing of the so called "security" in Vista, it doesn't provide enough feedback to the user about what exactly it is that they're saying "ok" to, which in many regards is worse than not even asking in the first place. The first time it happens, the user is rightfully worried and reads over the message carefully. Not being able to understand exactly what it's asking they say ok, and wait for something bad to happen, and when nothing does they assume everything is ok. Repeat 10 or 20 times over a period of a week or so of regular use, and the user quickly learns that anytime that particular popup comes up, just click yes. It defeats the entire purpose, and trains the user that warning popups aren't important. A warning that can't be understood by the user, is less useful than not having a warning at all. I've thought of ways of dealing with this problem, and could go on at length about it, but this really isn't the place for it, and I doubt Joel would care for me to fill up his comments thread with paragraph upon paragraph of OS design and security discussion (not that I haven't already made a start of it, sorry Joel). Yes and no. Vista asks you to click ok anytime you do anything that might in any way potentially mess something up. It should be noted that there are a lot of things you do every single day that have the potential to possibly mess something up, as well as the fact that the popups don't actually ask you if you want to do whatever it was you just tried to do, at least not in a way your average user is able to understand. That was the biggest failing of the so called "security" in Vista, it doesn't provide enough feedback to the user about what exactly it is that they're saying "ok" to, which in many regards is worse than not even asking in the first place. The first time it happens, the user is rightfully worried and reads over the message carefully. Not being able to understand exactly what it's asking they say ok, and wait for something bad to happen, and when nothing does they assume everything is ok. Repeat 10 or 20 times over a period of a week or so of regular use, and the user quickly learns that anytime that particular popup comes up, just click yes. It defeats the entire purpose, and trains the user that warning popups aren't important. A warning that can't be understood by the user, is less useful than not having a warning at all.

I've thought of ways of dealing with this problem, and could go on at length about it, but this really isn't the place for it, and I doubt Joel would care for me to fill up his comments thread with paragraph upon paragraph of OS design and security discussion (not that I haven't already made a start of it, sorry Joel).

]]> By: hijinksensue http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/#comment-3750 hijinksensue Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:12:42 +0000 http://hijinksensue.com/?p=647#comment-3750 At my last job i had to systematically disable all of Vistas security features one by one in order to access the network, print, etc. I also had to reinstall my printer driver every time I had to print something due to a know vista issue. At my last job i had to systematically disable all of Vistas security features one by one in order to access the network, print, etc. I also had to reinstall my printer driver every time I had to print something due to a know vista issue.

]]> By: Zac http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/#comment-3749 Zac Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:05:55 +0000 http://hijinksensue.com/?p=647#comment-3749 <i>How many non-tech people do you know that think “my computer sucks” because their email is slow? Or maybe they think they need a new computer because it’s always crashing, when all they need is new RAM. I’ve seen dozens of acquaintances and family members throw out their old machines because they loaded it down with so much spyware that it became unusable. THIS is their user experience and MS really doesn’t have anything to do with any of that.</i> That's one of Vista's features, actually. They've got the protection that asks you for verification any time you do anything that could possibly mess something up. But MS can't win because because people who know what they're doing find it very annoying to have to do that all the time. How many non-tech people do you know that think “my computer sucks” because their email is slow? Or maybe they think they need a new computer because it’s always crashing, when all they need is new RAM. I’ve seen dozens of acquaintances and family members throw out their old machines because they loaded it down with so much spyware that it became unusable. THIS is their user experience and MS really doesn’t have anything to do with any of that.

That's one of Vista's features, actually. They've got the protection that asks you for verification any time you do anything that could possibly mess something up. But MS can't win because because people who know what they're doing find it very annoying to have to do that all the time.

]]> By: Orclev http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/#comment-3786 Orclev Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:51:41 +0000 http://hijinksensue.com/?p=647#comment-3786 Windows security does suck, but honestly the security on OS X, and even Linux isn't that much better. The main reason you don't see many viruses and worms targeted at OS X or LInux is simply a case of effort versus return on investment. Since windows is the dominant OS of your average clueless user, and there are plenty of windows systems around that are easily compromised it's simply not worth their effort to spend the time required to infect OS X. Interestingly enough, I've seen plenty of Linux systems cracked, although never in a way that wasn't blatantly obvious. In the case of Linux systems their interested in servers and rely on them not being carefully monitored as opposed to Windows in which they can more easily hide their activities. If the situation was reversed, and OS X had a 60% or better market penetration most viruses and worms would be written for OS X. Windows security does suck, but honestly the security on OS X, and even Linux isn't that much better. The main reason you don't see many viruses and worms targeted at OS X or LInux is simply a case of effort versus return on investment. Since windows is the dominant OS of your average clueless user, and there are plenty of windows systems around that are easily compromised it's simply not worth their effort to spend the time required to infect OS X. Interestingly enough, I've seen plenty of Linux systems cracked, although never in a way that wasn't blatantly obvious. In the case of Linux systems their interested in servers and rely on them not being carefully monitored as opposed to Windows in which they can more easily hide their activities. If the situation was reversed, and OS X had a 60% or better market penetration most viruses and worms would be written for OS X.

]]> By: Ben Zyl http://hijinksensue.com/2008/09/22/its-all-in-the-editing/#comment-3784 Ben Zyl Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:04:03 +0000 http://hijinksensue.com/?p=647#comment-3784 'I’ve seen family members loaded with so much spyware that it became unusable and MS really doesn’t have anything to do with any of that' . Really, MS has nothing to do with OS vulnerabilities? I've now run an OSX box for a couple of years taking no special precautions and had no detectable malware problems, most PC users I know of have regular trouble despite being reasonably knowledgeable and taking precautions, I think I can tell what the difference iis and it isn't the hardware. 'I’ve seen family members loaded with so much spyware that it became unusable and MS really doesn’t have anything to do with any of that' . Really, MS has nothing to do with OS vulnerabilities? I've now run an OSX box for a couple of years taking no special precautions and had no detectable malware problems, most PC users I know of have regular trouble despite being reasonably knowledgeable and taking precautions, I think I can tell what the difference iis and it isn't the hardware.

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