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I’m sure many of your FB’s saw “Dark Knight” last night around midnight… midknight? I hope to catch it this weekend. So far the review have gone something like, “Holy shit, Batman!” so I am enthused.
I’ve never read the “Watchmen” comics. I know, I will turn in my comic geek card at the door. I had been reading that die hard fans of Alan Moore’s anti-hero opus were worried about the movie not staying true to the source material, but apparently the trailer (that is showing with “Dark Knight“) is assuaging their fears.
I only know of the characters and story what Josh has told me and what I’ve read on Wiki, but the trailer was bonerific to say the least, even if their Batman analog is a freaking barn owl.
Speaking of Batman… just watch this and smile.
Tags: batman, comic books, dark knight, movies, watchmen
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February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
the trailer wasn't terribly impressive. the movie has no way of capturing the essence of the book, a book I didn't think was all that great either. The book is too involved, with many storylines.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
<picky editor>You mean "aN old barn" in the second panel?</picky editor> (We're probably going to see it tonight.)
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Typical never-pleased about ANYTHING fanboy
That trailer kicked ass.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I dunno. I mean, my friend who loves Watchmen and was waiting for that trailer turned to me at the end and went "Uh…well at least it looks pretty." He is the person in my group who loves the book and still sides with Alan Moore in that the movie shouldn't be made. The book is not "cinematic" cause Moore purposely made it not so. We'll still see it, but it's going to be a three hour long poop fest.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
The series is worth the read, and relatively short (12 issues). I've got 'em if you want 'em.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Your friend is ANOTHER picky fanboy.
That trailer was all kinds of awesome. The fact that it was that visually on point, is a miracle. Screw Alan Moore. It looked like pages from the graphic novel come to life.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Your argument makes no sense. As DCMovieGirl said you must be a never-pleased about anything fanboy.
We are supposed to take your friend's opinion as a true fanboy for the Watchmen when you state that he already didn't want the movie to be made? Of course he isn't going to like the preview!
It's "higher then thou" fanboys like you and your friend that make me not want people to know I like the Wathcmen and and really really excited about this movie and that the trailer that looked AMAZING. Even if Night Owl is a kinda lame character…..
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Hey, don't knock one Nite Owl. He just needs some lovin', even if it is Dr. Manhattan's sloppy seconds. And the trailer does so look bad ass
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Agree to disagree and shake e-hands. Debate is fine, but no arguments here.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Agree to disagree and shake e-hands. Debate is fine, but no arguments here.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Fixed thanks!
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
*shrug*
It's cool.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Niteowl, and his boy sidekick Swallow!
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I love Watchmen and I loved the trailer, especially The Comedian and Rorschach blowing stuff up. And Dr Manhattan. And Silk Spectre. And I'll just shut up now.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Nite-Owl is not a Batman analog! He's a Blue Beetle analog!
Wait, that's not helping things, is it?
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I really like how Eli is oblivious to the whole conversation, just focused entirely on Batman.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I started laughing as soon as I saw Eli just repeating "Batman"!
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Doctor Field Mouse FTW!
I guess he'd have to be voiced by Patrick Warburton, right?
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I was gonna point out that Nite Owl is not an analogue for batman (if anyone is, it's Rorsarch) but it's been done. On another note, Alan Moore was right (he wrote the damn thing, he should be right about it, shouldn't he?), the way the comic was written does not really lend itself to a cinematic format. The movie's going to miss a lot of what is great about the book (i.e. the complex, non-linear storytelling) but based on what I saw in the trailer, it's probably going to be entertaining at the very least.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I absolutely LOVE the watchmen, it is among my favorite novels. That said, I think (as Moore has said himself) that it is impossible to translate it properly to film, it simply is too complex and utilizes devices that cannot properly be brought to motion pictures.
Still, though, I giggle gleefully at the trailer. If its 70% essence of watchmen I'll still cream my pants a delightful shade of white.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
As soon as I read this I pictured Josh dressed in full Night-Owl attire.
A vision of the future perhaps?
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
If its gonna be any Patrick, it has to be Patrick Stewart. Verbose, well spoken Field mouse ftw.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Then Warburton has to be Doc Field Mouse's evil henchman, Venetian Vole.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I enjoyed that too. Btw… the youtube video was… far too entertaining
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Yeah, cos good movies have never utilised the non-linear storytelling device *cough*memento*cough*pulp fiction*ahem*the prestige*cough*slaughterhouse five*ahem* er excuse me, there was something in my throat there.
Personally i have heard a lot of people say it 'doesn't lend itself to the movie medium' but very few offering specific reason why, which at least you did. Moore's own thoughts on the matter seem to have something to do with there be too much to take in in one sitting so its better to be able to go back and read the book several times, that's valid, but there's no reason this can't be done with movies today, especially with DVD. And as for Moore being the author so therefore he'd know, well not many butchers tell you how good vegetarian lasagne and tofu turkey taste do they?
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
After viewing the trailer a couple squillion times yesterday morning, I popped over here for my usual Friday fix. As always, hysterical, but this time more personally so. I love Watchmen, and I'm excited about the film.
I'm going to assume that Eli started camping outside the theatre two days prior, and you're the first ones in there — otherwise, that's an oddly empty theatre… (Just a little sassy constructive criticism; I only noticed it after re-reading it for the kajillionth time because it is so dang funny!)
Or maybe every one moved to different seats once Eli started chanting.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Rereading this and laughing at how far Joel is taking the joke, I realized you need to put a link to this in your "About the Artist" blurb right after you say "and then drive that joke into the earth so deep that you thought you were watching The Core."
Love Josh getting pissed then resigned to your Nite Owl riff. And Eli still chanting "Batman" in the (literal) background. It's funny cause it really sounds like you guys. Only Josh probably would swear more in the podcast version.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Er, aren't bats also nocturnal? That's a pretty weak argument against Nite-Owl if you're comparing him against BATman. :/
I'm just sayin' is all.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Not trying to slap you on the wrist, but I have a thing about people on the internet making each other feel bad. Not that you were trying to, but I dont want debates to escalate. HE is a happy place full of happy mountains and happy trees.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
This is actually why Im glad I havent invested emotion in the source material. I want to enjoy this movie and not be dissappointed that it wasnt true to the novel. Ill check out the novel after the movie.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
For fear that it will make me hate the movie, Im going to wate until afterwards (or not).
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Its less about knocking Nite Owl and more about making Josh feel bad.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Once again, a reader out writes my jokes. I doff my cap to you.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I read up on how each character is based on a ….fuck I forgot the name of the company… ANOTHER character from a different comics publisher. I find that really odd. SuperHeroes are similar enough in origin and powers that they dont really need to be directly lifted from another creative entity.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I love it when you guys identify with the stuff that I include just because "thats what he would actually do." It makes my job of creating characters much easier when I can "What WOULD Eli do?" Hey! WWED!?
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Maurice LeMarche.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Once again, why Im glad I havent read Watchmen yet. From the trailer I can almost guarantee that I will at least enjoy this movie. I dont want the baggage that 20 years of Watchmen fandom carries with it. Ive been on that side of the fence far too many times.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Moore is also quite the "Artiste" in that he's very close to his work. Stan Lee could give two fucks what they do to Spider-Man as long as the checks cash. I support that Moore loves his creations and wants to see them respected, but at the same time as soon as he cashes HIS giant check, all bets are off.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Either than or this comic was 12 hours late and kicking my ass so I neglected to add any background people. I was (this) close but decided to publish before I started getting "where's the comic" emails. You never know, I might add it in when no one is paying attention.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Doug, my good man, you enter the "Fancy Bastad Hall of Fame" for "getting it" that much. I was telling my wife that its easy to write dialog for these three because I just think about what we would say to each other in real life. Joel's argument holds no water and makes no sense, but the idea is to piss josh off by saying as many things that he wont like hearing louder and faster than he can process them and rebut.
Thats basically the dynamic of our actual friendship.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
From my Reply to Doug:
"Joel's argument holds no water and makes no sense, but the idea is to piss josh off by saying as many things that he wont like hearing louder and faster than he can process them and rebut.
Thats basically the dynamic of our actual friendship. "
Yeah his points are pointless. He'd just deconstructing something Josh is enthusiastic about in spite of the fact that he thinks it looks just as cool as Josh does. Its a vicious cycle.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Naaah, too much a repeat of the Brain. But just like LeMarche's imitation of Orson Welles as the Brain, and Allen Swift's imitation of Lionel Barrymore as Simon Bar Sinister, we have to find another voice actor who can do a good version of a great-voiced actor. Hmmm. Who can do John Carradine?
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
And Josh gets back at you by destroying your toilet weekly.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Someone's channeling Bob Ross…
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Either that, or just like in Luby's, every time the three of you show up in a movie theater, people around all move away. Dragging heavy tables, or in this case, uprooting theater seats. So maybe instead of adding people, you need to take away chairs.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I think you mean the old Charlton comics, where the Blue Beetle was originally published.
I know what you mean when you say that the characters shouldn't need to be a take off of other characters but its also true that throughout the genre there are several common archetypes. Take CoH for example, while there are many permutations the universe can still basically be summed up into Magic, Tech, Alien, Nuclear accident etc.
Also I think when he started writing the story he had it in mind to use specific Charlton characters but then it turned out he wasn't allowed so he changed the characters slightly enough that they would work inside the same story.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
About them making it into a movie: I should like to point out that I am not versed at all in the world of graphic novel characters. I would not have known about The Watchmen at all if it had not come to the movies. So perhaps a movie is a clever way to bring an innocent newbie like me into your dark and explicit world? I promise to hate every single minute of the movie and then read the novels with orgiastic delight afterwards.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Thats a really good point, so many people who would never read the book will see the film and go to the book shop (or at least download it ;-D).
I really don't want anyone to go see this movie who has some sort of maral objection to it, its not like I want the movie to be a success so they can make a sequel, (in fact if they ever did announce a sequel i would be right up in arms along side all the die-hard nay-sayers), for all i care this movie can fail terribly (I really doubt this), as long as i get to see it before it does.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I'm reading the graphic novel right now (almost done) and it's so weird…I don't like any of the characters. I don't like the way the story is told. I don't like the plot. I don't like any of the separate components that make up the whole. I can't stop reading it anyhow.
Maybe once I get to the end I'll like it. Probably I'll still not like it. But I'm giving it a damn good try.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Batman was awesome. The trailer for Watchmen definitely made me interested in the comic. Now I'm not sure if I should read it before or after the movie…
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Also, Nite Owl is supposed to be lame. He's a big dorky, ineffectual everyman who happens to put on a costume and build a bunch of geeky gear. He's actually based more on the Blue Beetle than Batman. Rorschach is the real bad-ass. He beats the crap out of criminals to the point that he makes Batman seem well-adjusted. Actually, come to think of it, he probably makes the Joker seem well-adjusted.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
these "facts" you speak of dont usually come into play with im tearing down someone else's fandom.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
PLEASE read it. It's amazing. And considering even the good movies based on books, there will be plenty left out..